When you give good Cigars to Stupid People

[Fuzz]

I often bring cigars to share to gatherings. If there is a specific cigar I want to smoke myself, I will usually take it out first before offering or let my friends know that they can choose any cigar, except that particular, one as I brought it out specifically for me to smoke. Good friends will have no problem with this.

It was quite amusing the other night, we got together at @jay8354 place for end of week drinks and cigars.  Another good friend brought his son (won't mention who as his mother doesn't know he has been corrupted by us), but he was a little shy in asking for a cigar later in the night. I told him to just go and grab any cigar he wanted out of my case. The amount of times our group has shared cigars between us, it has become a moot point. There will be a time where we all mooch off each other!

[El Presidente]

3 hours ago, Fuzz said:

I often bring cigars to share to gatherings. If there is a specific cigar I want to smoke myself, I will usually take it out first before offering or let my friends know that they can choose any cigar, except that particular, one as I brought it out specifically for me to smoke. Good friends will have no problem with this.

It was quite amusing the other night, we got together at @jay8354 place for end of week drinks and cigars.  Another good friend brought his son (won't mention who as his mother doesn't know he has been corrupted by us), but he was a little shy in asking for a cigar later in the night. I told him to just go and grab any cigar he wanted out of my case. The amount of times our group has shared cigars between us, it has become a moot point. There will be a time where we all mooch off each other!

Fuzz

Your group should be framed. The WA and local lads as well. 

The way you all conduct yourselves, the way you look after each other in all aspects of life, the way you treat newcomers with respect and open arms  symbolises the best aspects of this hobby. 

There will always be people who try to take advantage of such intentions. Identify, attempt to rectify, assess, jettison. 

 

[MrGlass]

5 hours ago, MooseAMuffin said:

This reminds me of a story, I am pretty sure I read on here, where this guy's wife had a ladies night out. In the morning she told him she smoked one of his cigars and he panicked, ran outside and found that she butchered one of his rare cigars he was saving. He posted pics and they were pretty funny. 

Here you go:

 

[TNT009]

Put him on the $hit list!

[MooseAMuffin]

57 minutes ago, MrGlass said:

Here you go:

 

That's the one!! Great find!! Cant like your post enough!

[oliverdst]

POS has being named from things that I don't even know the meaning (I am not anglophile) but what I feel is that he is a rude guy, uneducated.

He doesn't have the sensibility and education to sale in unknown waters.

More than once I refused very expensive wines because I simply don't have the palate to taste it appropriately. I think he can't do that. 

[MooseAMuffin]

47 minutes ago, FatherOfPugs said:

My maddening experience similarly happened at a neighbor's party. I brought my travel humidor with some nice cigars I had picked out for my neighbor and I to choose from since he is a cigar aficionado like myself and enjoys a good smoke. I placed my humidor under my towel (we were outside at his pool) and about 30 minutes later I see 2 guys that I don't know lighting up cigars........at first I thought, well, more people brought cigars to smoke, then as I walked over by them, it was apparent they were smoking cigars from my humidor! F^*ckers didn't even ask, just opened it up and took what they wanted, a HdM Le Hoyo de San Juan and my one and only freaking H.Upmann Connie B! I was livid, and yet still managed to be nice to them, asked them where they got the cigars from and if they were enjoying them......then I made them feel like total damn heels for just going into a humidor that was covered. 

Lesson learned, I'm keeping my humidor well within arms reach. Thank God they did not take the '14 Esplendido I had in the humidor. Who the f^ck does that?

That takes some guts to grab cigars from some random humidor without asking. Add the fact that it was covered... I'm surprised you kept it together.

[Kitchen]

1 hour ago, scmguru said:

Along those lines, I've got a good friend who is a fan of Cognac. A mutual friend of ours decides he is going to make himself a drink and pours himself about half a glass of Louis XIII Cognac and then proceeds to fill the rest of the glass with Pepsi. ?

But at least he drank it all.. 

I have an uncle that would do this, would not care, and would get pissed off to point of making scene if you called him out on it.  He would also try and start a feud if you did not let him have it in the future.  He's also in his 60s, so I don't think he's going to change.   

[Fuzz]

1 hour ago, Kitchen said:

I have an uncle that would do this, would not care, and would get pissed off to point of making scene if you called him out on it.  He would also try and start a feud if you did not let him have it in the future.  He's also in his 60s, so I don't think he's going to change.   

Simple solution. Get a very expensive cognac, drink it all (either by yourself or with good friends), then refill the bottle with some cheap and nasty cognac. Leave the bottle in your bar just for him.

[Kitchen]

24 minutes ago, Fuzz said:

Simple solution. Get a very expensive cognac, drink it all (either by yourself or with good friends), then refill the bottle with some cheap and nasty cognac. Leave the bottle in your bar just for him.

That would certainly work.  I have better solution though; let him get into a fight with my cousin in law and invite my cousin in law to every party I have so he wont show.  

Actually this already happened, three days before my wedding.  He offered out Steve, my cousin and 40 years younger, in the courtyard of a hotel while on vacation.  My cousin had the better sense not to get in a fist fight.  The next day he told Steve that he felt that he should not go to my wedding; Steve told him to get over it and that he was going.  My uncle did not show.  Initially I was a little disturbed, but out of everyone I invite he was the only one I feared would start a fight, so it kind of worked out.  

It's been more then a year and my uncle is still pushing this faux feud; Steve meanwhile just laughs it off.  

[cigcars]

8 hours ago, LonesomeHabanoAficionado said:

Such a huge loss since it is being used inappropriately by the ignorant person!! ? Because of this, I will not simply let a person taking or touching cigars who does not know cigars (and pipes but will be acquired in future) unless showing a willingness to learn how to appreciate habanos properly.

    *My co-worker supervisor had been thoroughly schooled by me in the bliss of Habanas, etc. HE appreciated and showed proper reverence for them! Again...it was his empty headed little cousin (and I don't mean to dis the poor little guy too much - ALL of us did dumbass things when we were their age) who helped himself to them and wasn't aware of the value and history of our smokes. He thought they were in the same category as those "joke" cigars...

[luckme10]

So I decided to have a cigar bar at my wedding. The biggest problem I had was trying to figure out which cigars to go with. Part of me wanted to hand out rocky Patel and Olivia Seconds to people, as most of them were too drunk and or inexperienced to know any better. But there were a few who were avid smokers. The wife being Chinese and Catholic virtually insured that I’d be hearing a mouthful from her large side, and party wise, hers would outnumber mine 4:1. As if I wanted them there anyways but she was so worried that someone would get offended. Anyways, I eventually bit the bullet and ended up going all Cuban, bringing about 4 boxes of Monte 4s and Monte 5s out for my wedding. The next day, when we were cleaning up, I was appalled to discover that the cigars that people actually decided to smoke were only mostly smoked an inch or so. Most had been taken home, hopefully by more than one person. Then it it got worse. When I emptied the stationary cigar cutter, it was discovered that the inch of cigars weren’t actually smoked. People had decided to lop of the cigar tips by up to several inches. In retrospect, I should have hired someone to tend to the cigar bar, or canned the idea all together. Never assume that people know what to do with them, especially when alcohol is involved. One can only hope they just don’t know any better.

[mt1]

11 hours ago, El Presidente said:

No it's not his fault that he is an ignorant, rude, selfish. piece of crap, scumbag, prick. 

Resign him and the friend/s he hangs out with to the dustbin of life.  Upgrade on the people you hang out with. 

Prince or pauper, I treat them with equal respect UNTIL there is one whiff that they put themselves first. Then they are are buried for life. 

this type of FKtard get's right under my skin. Purge them to the edge of existance as you would a paedophile. 

This a thousand times.  I'm now very wary of who I share cigars to or who I present them to.  If they are cigar smoker friends, they obviously know what is what and will usually go for the least pricey and least special stick, at which point I will ask them twice if they want to try one of the "nicer" ones, I am fine with any of my cigars being appreciated.

If they are good friends but not big smokers, I will let them pick from some more regular production but even then, each and every time, they will ask me to choose for them as they don't know and don't want to be picky, because they are good friends.

If they are not good friends, then I don't feel obliged to offer them anything.  If I am in a situation where I will need to share, then it's quinteros for everyone and if you finish your quintero and want some more, then you get upgraded to a good friend.

I think what we've learned in this thread is that we've all gotten seriously burned once for trying to be (extremely) nice and generous, but that's how it goes with cigars because newbies never finish them.

[99call]

To me, one of the biggest frustrations with giving cigars to friends, is so often, we want our friends to share our passion, and it's less so the value of the cigar, more the lack of appreciation when they 99% of the time, don't dig it.   Often they are cigarette smokers who know how much you like cigars, and identify that there is something good here, something to get into, and enjoy. 

Often however they are drunk, or tipsy, or just want a cigarette...........this is obviously the worst possible time to give someone a cigar.  

To me the best possible introduction to cigars, is get them to hold off, arrange a day, after a good lunch, no booze,  grab a coffee, and give them something like a PLMC nice cool, flavourful smoke, low expense, no pressure, an all round great introduction to the world of Habanos.  Also with something like PLMC, it's not too much of a hassle to bring the whole box with you.  You can give them the full tour, let them smell the box, show them how to pick a cigar, the foot, the pack etc. they'll enjoy the process, and the packaging..........after this, you have a much better chance of a new disciple, than ruining an wasting an 898 on a drunken night. 

 

 

[alloy]

19 hours ago, fitzy said:

Your first mistake was giving him the option of picking the cigar you were going to smoke. 

Your second mistake was not snatching it right out of his greasy little hands the second he picked it up.

Your third mistake is not giving them some shitty non cubans for them to smoke. 

 

Sorry but that totally sucks and burns my ass when shit like that happen. I've had similar incidents where they gladly accept a great cuban cigar and then proceed to smoke maybe 1/4 of it before throwing it out. Never made that mistake again. Now I keep cheap non cubans on hand for them.

This. I wouldn't have even shown the POS the Cohiba.

[Lotusguy]

That would certainly work.  I have better solution though; let him get into a fight with my cousin in law and invite my cousin in law to every party I have so he wont show.  
Actually this already happened, three days before my wedding.  He offered out Steve, my cousin and 40 years younger, in the courtyard of a hotel while on vacation.  My cousin had the better sense not to get in a fist fight.  The next day he told Steve that he felt that he should not go to my wedding; Steve told him to get over it and that he was going.  My uncle did not show.  Initially I was a little disturbed, but out of everyone I invite he was the only one I feared would start a fight, so it kind of worked out.  
It's been more then a year and my uncle is still pushing this faux feud; Steve meanwhile just laughs it off.  

Err - time to cut this a-hole out of your life.

[GavLew79]

Sounds like a knob. I've met a few crass individuals, chuffing cigars that I've told them to take their time with, inhaling them, necking fine whiskies, diluting great rum with coke...

Anyway, forgive me, because I normally smoke alone, and I'm British, but I must ask...

Isn't smoking something better than you've given everyone else a bit, er, rude? Are people normally ok with it?

For example if I gave guests the 10 year old whisky while I poured myself the 21 year old, or gave them the cheap wine while I indulged in the good claret...it doesn't quite sit right. I know it's not exactly the same principle, but it's kind of close. Is it different with cigars? Different culture maybe?

No offence intended, just curious. 

Cheers. 

[thedame007]

18 hours ago, El Presidente said:

No it's not his fault that he is an ignorant, rude, selfish. piece of crap, scumbag, prick. 

Resign him and the friend/s he hangs out with to the dustbin of life.  Upgrade on the people you hang out with. 

Prince or pauper, I treat them with equal respect UNTIL there is one whiff that they put themselves first. Then they are are buried for life. 

this type of FKtard get's right under my skin. Purge them to the edge of existance as you would a paedophile. 

Someone really is not sleeping! 

[BrightonCorgi]

If they are not one of my cigar smoking buddies or someone I know to be a real cigar smoker; I pick the cigar out for them.  Simple as that.

[99call]

1 hour ago, GavLew79 said:

I'm British

What what! say you good sir!?,  shouldn't you be our next budding box pass enthusiast? Your country needs you!!!!!!  would be good to see you in the UK sub-forum.   We have tortoise shell shoe horns, deep pile berber carpets, wingback Chesterfields, many leather bound books on subjects like advanced topiary and pocket squares. 

[Ritch]

You forgot to say 'God save the Queen' old chum.

[canadianbeaver]

You brought cigars and put them out before a group of guys to smoke. They picked ones to smoke or whatever.

Once they stick ‘em in their mouths, whether they take one puff or eat the thing it really does not matter. They have DNA on it. It’s a goner. I give my friend his beforehand and ours are aside.

Have a good time and enjoy your evening. Have some class. Bring whatever you are ready to distribute and that is about it. 

CB

 

[taylorgov2]

I carry 2 boxes when going to a gathering with friends and acquaintenses. My friends whom are experienced and regular cigar smokers that can recognize and appreciate a fine cigar get to choose from the box with a good variety of middle of the road to somewhat higher end CCs, the acquaintenses that I may or may not know and are mainly just wanting to smoke because everyone else is gets to choose from my other box, a mixture of cheap, not necessarily cheerful CCs and Gurkhas. Most migrate towards the Gurkhas because they recognize the name and the label is fancy and pretty so they think it has to be good. It's a win win because my friends get to enjoy a good CC and the others get to feel a part of the group while thinking they're getting to try a high end AKA "The Best Cigar Ever Made" (Gurhka), and I can also get rid of all these Gurkhas that have been taking up space in my humidor since my days first starting out smoking cigars so that I can make room for more CCs. 

[rcarlson]

FFS, I had a buddy chop my des dieux in half -- you know --  to share.  

[timis300]

I guess you can tell what kind of person that is. this person seems to me like hes ungrateful, inconsiderate, and a bit pretentious. My friends, well real friends, would always ask me which cigar is what, as they'll tell me they don't want to take the ones that are special to me, or even ask for my recommendation. If they are new to this, I'd give them a siglo 1 or a reyes. 

happened to me a year ago, when at a highschool reunion, when this person asked if he can take 1 from me, and out of all of those, he took a vigia, because it was the smallest cigar. he put it down after 2 puffs, and left it there. :*(