Peter11216 Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 I bought a box of non-Cuban cigars in a person to person cash and handshake deal. Apparently, my counter party is a model who was given the box at the last event he was working. I find it quit credible that he has zero knowledge about cigars. When I inspected the box, I didn't think to count the cigars, though in retrospect I should have seen immediately that one was missing. Stupid. Obviously I'm writing this, because when I got home I noticed the box was missing a stick. What's the right etiquette here? Frankly, one cigar is just not a big deal, and isn't worth my time making a fuss. However, I am annoyed just enough to think I should get some kind of compensation from the guy. Any thoughts? Best, Pete
Habanos2000 Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 Frankly, one cigar is just not a big deal, and isn't worth my time making a fuss. I believe you answered your own question.
sloth Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 When I inspected the box, I didn't think to count the cigars, though in retrospect I should have seen immediately that one was missing. Stupid. twice
mbrody Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 I believe you answered your own question. Agreed...unless this was $100/stick, I would just enjoy what you got and forget about it. Life is too short.
Peter11216 Posted May 13, 2011 Author Posted May 13, 2011 Well . . . just to be a smart ass, my question as written in the topic description was what would YOU do. Nonetheless, I take your point, and you are correct. I believe you answered your own question.
Dbone Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 It would depend if I noticed it at point of receipt, I "may" say or ask what's up. Otherwise, it would not be proper to mention it after the fact. At least that's what I would do since you paid money for them. If gifted, as the saying goes, don't look a gift-horse in the mouth.
Guest rob Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 I would definitely speak to Ken Gargett about this particular predicament!
bc8436 Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 If it was a 25 box, I wouldn't do anything unless it's an expensive cigar. Also, if it's still a good deal minus the one cigar, I wouldn't do anything regardless of price.
cigcars Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 *Well if it was me, it would eat at me until I did SOMETHING! Sooooo - I would call up the guy and tell him, "Hey one of the cigars was missing from my box upon opening." Then wait to see what his response would be. Generally if it's a good individual and he doesn't want to risk angering or losing a contact, he should respond with something like, "Well when you see me again, I'll give you a single stick replacement," or something to that effect. I think that at worst case scenario if the individual is a jack-ass and doesn't offer you some kind of reciprocation at least you will have eased your own dilemma in agonizing decision of "Do I or don't I." I've once gotten a on Fakecristo No. 2 from a vendor I'd been patronizing for awhile. I told him that the ink from the cigar band came off on my fingers! No offer to replace. Not even an apology. Needless to say, I don't shop there no more.
CigarmanTim Posted May 13, 2011 Posted May 13, 2011 I would definitely speak to Ken Gargett about this particular predicament! Yes, you are lucky you are only missing one.
Ghabanos Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 I would sit down, light one up, and forget about it... should have counted... but one stick, not a big deal... lesson for next time... that's how I would think of it if it were me... but you might want to take some standard issue SWAT gear (submachine gun - Heckler & Koch MP5, semi auto pistol - M1911 pistol, flash bang, stinger tear gas grenades, etc.) to his address, repel down his house/apt, toss in some tear gas and break into his living room feet first via his window while he is watching TV, then make him compensate you for the prorated the cost of one stick.... then leave through the window which you came (parachuting down if apt).... actually that sounds pretty cool. after a second thought, that's what I would do...
Habanos2000 Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Well . . . just to be a smart ass, my question as written in the topic description was what would YOU do. Nonetheless, I take your point, and you are correct. A guy from Brooklyn a smart ass?? No way! I would do the same, not sweat it and just chalk it up to experience. Fool me once...
ajgagnon Posted May 14, 2011 Posted May 14, 2011 Done deal. And, most NCs are in boxes of 24. Unless there was clearly one slot empty, you probably have them all. If not, someone helped with the QC. If they were all short filler or something, then your model friend would have grounds to be worried about his (you said it was a he) continued beauty. Either way, I've taken similar risks buying boxes, and what it boils down to is this: any purchase not made through a reputable vendor like the Czar is a gamble; win some, lose some. In my experience, lose mostly, but hey, I have stories to tell, and pictures of strange cigars. I still smoke most of them anyway.
Baldy Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 I'd learn from this and move on. It's up to me to check the merchandise before parting with my money. Open any box of cigar and it's pretty obvious to spot one missing. I should have seen it so next time pay more attention. If I didn't inspect it first, then serves me right. Does it matter if it's a private deal or store bought? In this case no. Try going back into a store with an open box and asking them for another cigar because you found one was missing. How I'm I going to prove to the store that I didn't smoke one, then complain that one was missing?
dicko Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 Tell Smithy that he appreciates the hand picked aspect to the customer service but you would appreciate if he didn't smoke the cigar to test!!
gigabyte056 Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 I would sit down, light one up, and forget about it...should have counted... but one stick, not a big deal... lesson for next time... that's how I would think of it if it were me... but you might want to take some standard issue SWAT gear (submachine gun - Heckler & Koch MP5, semi auto pistol - M1911 pistol, flash bang, stinger tear gas grenades, etc.) to his address, repel down his house/apt, toss in some tear gas and break into his living room feet first via his window while he is watching TV, then make him compensate you for the prorated the cost of one stick.... then leave through the window which you came (parachuting down if apt).... actually that sounds pretty cool. after a second thought, that's what I would do... It seems you are playing way too much video games my friend
Ken Gargett Posted May 15, 2011 Posted May 15, 2011 I would definitely speak to Ken Gargett about this particular predicament! you are not wrong. every time it happens to me, i ring rob who just starts giggling like a girl - the only thing i can catch is something about tax.
Peter11216 Posted May 15, 2011 Author Posted May 15, 2011 Thanks for the advice. Everyone is clearly right. I'll admit I'm even a little embarrassed to have bothered posting the question. It was a box of short perfectos, boxed in 22's; and I was sitting there looking at the 21 cigars, annoyed that (a) I didn't bother to count, and ( there was really nothing reasonable to do about it. I probably wouldn't have posted had I not been sitting right beside the computer. The guy was, as he admitted, totally clueless about cigars. He kept calling them "cigarettes." Apparently, the boxes were being given away to VIP's at his last fashion show. Several boxes were not given away, and one of the organizers offered to let him take them. He only picked up one. Best, Pete Done deal. And, most NCs are in boxes of 24. Unless there was clearly one slot empty, you probably have them all. If not, someone helped with the QC. If they were all short filler or something, then your model friend would have grounds to be worried about his (you said it was a he) continued beauty. Either way, I've taken similar risks buying boxes, and what it boils down to is this: any purchase not made through a reputable vendor like the Czar is a gamble; win some, lose some. In my experience, lose mostly, but hey, I have stories to tell, and pictures of strange cigars. I still smoke most of them anyway.
benjaminbbush Posted May 16, 2011 Posted May 16, 2011 As you said, this guy knows nothing about cigars, so no bad intent on his part. Just chalk it up to Rob's phantom "tax". Hope you got a good deal even with this one missing!
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